#72 – So schaffst du jede Prüfung – mit Dr. Martin Krengel

Flemming:
I think you know that. You have an exam soon and you’re nervous to no end. My guest today has written a book that focuses on the topic of exam anxiety. Dr. His name is Martin Krengel, a psychologist and learning expert, and I talked to him about what you should do before exams to stay relaxed. We also addressed the question of which points are crucial if you want to improve a specific skill area in a short time. Stay tuned if this interests you.

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Hello, dear German learner! Hello, dear German learner! It’s nice to have you back at Deutsches Geplapper. And I have now spoken to Dr. a second time. Martin Krengel spoke. I’ve been here with him before and chatted a bit. Martin Krengel, psychologist, motivation expert and best-selling author. At that time we had the topic that you should take breaks sometimes when learning a language, i.e. the topic of time management and the topic of motivation. Feel free to listen to the episode again if you haven’t heard it yet. First of all, hello Martin, nice to have you here again.

Martin:
Greetings from Berlin!

Flemming:
Very nice, I’m pleased. How is the weather where you are right now, Martin? Tell me.

Martin:
Sunny.

Flemming:
Sunny?

Martin:
For a change, yes.

Flemming:
Very good. Okay, not like that for us. It’s been raining here for weeks and all day long in Rostock. But well, at least the soil gets a bit of moisture and a bit of nutrients. And that is of course something very, very nice. Martin, today we want to talk about your book, about one of your books. You have written a total of eleven books. Namely, perhaps you can briefly say something general like that. What are your books about? Can you put that into words?

Martin:
Well, what fascinates me is this buzzword brain productivity. Well, I’m neither a pure time management expert nor a learning psychologist, but both and combine them. Because in today’s world it’s not assembly line work, everything as quickly as possible, tack, tack, tack, tack tack that counts, but what counts is the maximum from our heads to get out. So creativity, processing complexity, understanding and learning things quickly. 90,000 books are published in Germany every year. And knowledge is exploding and how are you going to stay on the ball? And what I do is just see how I can get the most out of my time. But the biggest time wasters are just learning, reading, writing and reasoning. So everything that goes on in my head fascinates me, I structure it and help my readers or course buyers to simply make faster progress. I always say go twice as fast or save half the effort. And that sounds kind of like a marketing slogan at first, but in fact it’s deep because if you never deal with it, i.e. with learning psychology or with time management, it’s just enormous. So I can give you three learning tricks that will instantly triple or quadruple your memories, scientifically backed up. And imagine if you combine that. So how much time you save and, above all, it’s not about time, how quickly you progress or actually achieve the things that are important to you.

Flemming:
Okay, but I’m very excited about that now. Shoot from the hip with these three learning tips. Then we’ll go into the book.

Martin:
Well, of course that can’t be explained in three sentences. So one thing, I can tell you key words that we can attach to the book again later. One is the depth of processing. So that you deal with things as deeply and diversely as possible. There is a difference between recognition and recall. So recognition would be, I just somehow see the vocabulary, recognize it, yes I can. And you think you can. But if you can’t remember it, repeat it or weave it into a sentence, then it’s no use to you. So if you change the activity, the way you learn, then three, four, five times as much remains. The other is visualization. We absorb 80% of the information through our eyes. So with small pictures, scribbles, mind maps, structure maps you can increase your memory performance, i.e. if you process it creatively. And thirdly, the switch in the head. So if you go there with no interest and no desire, oh God, I have to study again today, then the limbic system switches off and says, I don’t feel like learning. And then you sit there and it doesn’t really get saved because emotionally it’s not perceived as important.

Flemming
Ah yes, okay. Then it actually just gets worse.

Martin:
So imagine that you fall in love with a fast German or a fast German, then you will suddenly learn three times as fast because the motivation is simply in the right place. Then it’s not about, I’m doing this now to get a better job, but it’s just, you really want to understand this person.

Flemming:
Yes, that makes sense. Well, maybe we’ll come back to these three points later. In the context of your book “ Top Grade ”. The book is called “Top grade – double learning success, halve test anxiety” . Yes, anyone who follows YouTube can see this right now, very nice. It also sold relatively or really well, just like you said. How long has the book existed?

Martin:
For 13 years. So it came out in 2012 and was actually the number one learning bestseller on Amazon for over eight years. And yes, because I put everything I learned into it. I studied twice and somehow arrived at my studies twice as an outsider. First of all, economics, the others had already done some internships, had economics at school, I had no idea. And then I got into such an elite university and was actually such an outsider. And then I graduated at the top of my class or with honors back then. And then I went to London and did a master’s degree in psychology, something completely different. We only had one year and I was actually top of my class. There were psychologists in there, there were native speakers in there and I, with my sexy Denglish, managed to regain full performance, i.e. my mental performance, in a very short time. Because, pay attention, now there is exactly this connection between strategic thinking, i.e. time management: How do I get the most out of it with minimal effort, or if I have a master’s degree in one year, then that’s minimal effort, I don’t have much time, and but do the right things? And when I work on these right things, how do I design them in such a way that something really sticks or is convincing?

Flemming:
Okay, very good. I think this is exactly the point at which many people fail. Especially when it comes to exams, as the book name suggests. I think this is a topic that is of great interest to many people who come to Germany, who learn a language and who also have to take exams in this language. I always say exams, of course that’s not what should be the focus, because it’s more about the skills that you can then use. In contrast to this is the exam, which asks you about certain things and whether you pass it or not depends on many factors. This doesn’t necessarily have to have anything to do with your skills. But still, there are exams for further study programs or for any kind of admissions that you need in order to climb further up the career ladder, etc. These are extremely important things that we simply have and need in society today. And the fact is that exams simply cause people great fear. Why is that? Why are people so afraid of taking exams? And what tricks and tricks are there to get a little bit of control over this?

Martin:
Okay, key word exam anxiety. I’ll get to it straight away. My mind is still on what you just said. I have developed a ten-step process in this book. So the ten most important learning processes have been crystallized, under which all learning methods can be subsumed and integrated, so to speak. For the YouTube stuff. I’ll show that. At the very beginning there is the strategy and the goal. And that’s very, very crucial when you start to learn, to become aware of, why am I learning this? And in what way do I need the knowledge? How is it queried? If you learn German now, you can be seen and perceived better in your job. I also have clients from Poland, for example, in my time coaching sessions. They are simply not taken seriously because they speak with too strong a dialect. And you just don’t understand them well. That’s why you’re really doing a very, very valuable job, Flemming. It’s great that something like this exists. Then in this case you have to practice speaking, pronunciation. And if possible, with topics that relate to the job. Then there’s no point in cramming through a textbook at C2 level and learning some old tenses. And I’m in a relationship or my wife is from Cuba, Spanish speaking. I haven’t looked at a grammar book or Spanish book in four years. I practice speaking every day and learn at the same time. And that is enough. I train exactly what I need. And if you have an exam on the other side, then you have to look at how the exam is asked. And many make the mistake, for example. This is my favorite enemy, the grammar book. Or a fill-in-the-blank book or something.

Flemming:
Yes, exactly.

Martin:
People cling to it because they’re afraid. We’re about to get into the transition to exam anxiety. But they are afraid of being seen. As children we were somehow… It was exciting when we had to speak in a group. And this feeling is simply stored. And so people somehow cling to vocabulary lists or grammar exercises and then suddenly they have to take a listening test and have only heard about, let me say, clean textbook audio books and not from native speakers. Or they then have to speak in an oral exam. And then suddenly, oh God, I see this in other things too, in normal exams, when speaking, things have to be lined up. This means you have to put everything you’ve learned in order. You have to find the right words, you have to hit the right grammar structure. And then you also think, oh God, what’s the pronunciation? And then there’s a bang, your brain explodes. And that’s what people are afraid of. And B, in the exam the transfer performance between, I would say, the normal learning process and what is needed is far too high. This means that when you study for an exam, learn exactly what is asked. If you have to write, write small texts and correct them. If you have to do dialogues when you have an oral exam, learn to stand and speak convincingly in front of groups and get direct feedback from a German speaker. That’s no use to you if you learn twice as much and twice as fast if you learn the wrong thing. And that’s just this basic mindset of starting in the right direction.

Flemming:
Exactly, so to practice specifically in the areas that you really need and not beyond that.

Martin: This is called
domain specificity in research. So that’s the keyword: learning is also very popular with many older people. Brain jogging, older learning. But research shows that if you’re really good at completing sudokus and crossword puzzles, then that doesn’t help you prevent Alzheimer’s because it’s simply a process that isn’t demanding enough on the brain. So stories like reading moderately difficult texts and holding conversations help because the complexity is different. Dancing, movement, that challenges the brain holistically. But a Sudoku is so specific that it doesn’t help you remember vocabulary better or remember where you put the key.

Flemming:
Exactly, yes. Yes, exactly. That’s the point of language learning. They also say that it prevents Alzheimer’s, for example. So that through this complexity of language learning you simply activate areas of the brain, or rather that they remain active, which you would otherwise probably not have active, or which would switch off at some point afterwards.

Martin:
Well, I’m happy to believe you, what I’ve read, what I know, it was these four things. But research is always just and has limitations. So I believe you immediately and you know more. This is really a complex process where different domains, so to speak, different skills come together.

Flemming:
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But let’s go back to the topic of exam anxiety. We now have the situation that many people are probably familiar with: I have an exam in a week or worse, tomorrow. There are many situations, for example when studying. Probably know a lot of people. I’ve already failed or failed three attempts. And the fourth attempt is about me making it. If I don’t make it, all my studies will be in good German. So I have to pass this test. But the pressure that I have with it can be incredibly paralyzing. He can finish me off too. For me that means I have to put everything in here. And if I can’t do it, then I’ll have to change my whole life. Or, that may sound a bit exaggerated, but many aspects of my life, many years that I have invested, may then be lost.

Martin:
So to put it bluntly: pressure is an asshole.

Flemming:
Pressure is a real asshole, exactly. But what do I do about it? For the YouTubers we have another little…

Martin:
I unpacked my brain. So if there’s too much pressure, then it’s just so squeezed in, how can the thoughts really develop if I’m constantly under pressure? And you know this from a conflict situation with your partner or boss; afterwards you are always quick-witted. And when you come out of the exam, you’ll remember it because the brain works best when it’s relaxed. And the question is how do I deal with this pressure?

Flemming:
Exactly how you deal with the pressure and perhaps additionally, what else can I really do when I realize, okay, I’ve probably learned far too little. Now I only have three days until the exam. Do I still have a chance? This is a leading question.

Martin:
I get a lot of emails that somehow want to mess something up again on the last day.

Flemming:
Who beg you for help on the last day?

Martin:
So there are a few SOS stories that you just put all your learning material aside, go to a neutral place and simply draw your mind map and make it clear to yourself what you already know. That you work on your claim, to say, well, okay, this might not be the 1.0 that I wanted, but I’m just trying to get through this well and then really do my lessons and do my homework afterwards. There are a few more, I would say, bullshitting tricks that I also describe, I think, in the 9th chapter, for example structures. For example, you can put everything in a three-fold structure like this. Such a past, a present and a future. Now if you can give me an impromptu speech or tell me something about, I don’t know, the 30 Years‘ War. Oh God, I haven’t learned that now, but can I first say, yes, if I study history now, what happened before, i.e. how did the 30 Years‘ War come about, so I can get rid of my half-knowledge about it and contextualize that. Then I remember a little something, a few facts, because once I have activated that in my brain, I can remember more things, then I can briefly describe what was going on in the war and then, thirdly, what the consequences were the one after that. And then practically through such a metastructure, through what was before, what is now, what is in the present, I can even share my knowledge and make it appear structured in such a way that I can also use a quarter of what I know I’ll get through just fine. There are people like that, the blinders, who don’t dazzle, they just know how to present the little knowledge they have well. And you’ll laugh, I have a speed reading seminar. It’s not just about reading quickly, it’s about understanding quickly. And I do this classic speed reading for three hours, then I do an hour of recognizing structures in texts, including in the learning book, so now related to language learning. It’s not a 200-page grammar book or learning book, and not all chapters are equally relevant to you. You don’t need certain vocabulary, like, I don’t know, how do I sew, or what, I don’t know what, French, what senseless… waste management somehow in the South Seas, what kind of vocabulary do I need? I remember I had to give a lecture about waste in the 10th grade. That helped me a lot in life. But if I have the choice, I’ll pick it. Again, what is my goal? You’ll laugh, then within an hour I’ll read a whole book with people that they just picked up at random from the library or that they’ve always wanted to read but haven’t been able to look at yet. And often there is only enough time for three quarters of an hour. Then they have 45 minutes to look at a complete book, filter it, strategically identify the core statements and then give a lecture to the group. And then the participants regularly say, for example, when they introduce you to Flemming, or you just introduced a book by Krengel, they say: “Hey, I could swear that’s a professor talking about his favorite topic. “You seem so convincing.”

Flemming:
Okay, so people really know exactly what they’re talking about, even though they only have three quarters of an hour at their disposal.

Martin:
Exactly and that’s just this strategic thinking, which is important to me or what I want to teach people. We talked about test anxiety. I’ve now gone a bit deep into last minute tricks. But now comes the raised finger, I’m not showing it. Actually, I remember, this is top grade book, this was supposed to be a book, like a last minute book. And then I got into it so deeply and recapitulated what really helped me. That this learning system really came into being. These are the ten processes and when I go through them, my knowledge becomes as solid as a diamond. So for those who can somehow see it or click on it, it’s kind of depicted as a diamond. And that’s how you can imagine it, because you’re grinding your knowledge and you’re actually taking something away. You condense it. So at the beginning you learn to process efficiently and to really determine what is important, what will be asked in the exam and you can figure it out or accept it very well. So first of all, that you have an overview, that you understand the structure of what you are doing. This is the first solid building block with three processes. The second is the depth of processing. We’ve already talked about it, today and in the previous episode, that if you process the knowledge in as many ways as possible, i.e. visually with a sense of touch, if you explain it to others, if you write it down, do a headstand, dance, you can rap it, repeat it on the bike, whatever takes your fancy. But the more varied the learning, the better it will stick. That’s the process of storage, so to speak, and then a process of reduction has to come because you can’t use everything in an exam and you have to focus on the important things and that’s where the structure helps, for example, as I just said , to say, okay, “How do I structure my knowledge?” And then at the end I have a cheat, a page with a survival summary, I call it, where everything important for a topic is listed and then I know , okay, five out of ten topics come up and I can then immediately recall in my head, aha, that was this structure map or this scheme and put it in front of my mental map and then I practically copy it in the exam when I just remember it, so to speak I looked at these ten pictures because I worked on everything that is in these pictures and once you really understand something, you can’t forget it. And now you have to laugh, that’s what it says in the book: “ Double learning success, halve exam anxiety“, that’s the subtitle, but I don’t write anything about exam anxiety per se anywhere, except in the first part, because it won’t do you any good if you meditate or do Bach flowers or drink St. John’s wort tea. Be careful with St. John’s wort, a roommate got pregnant while she was studying because she drank St. John’s wort tea to calm her nerves during the exam period and it reduces the effect of the baby pill.

Flemming:
Good to know.

Martin:
Yes, attention, now the motivation to learn is there, you remember that, it is very relevant information.

Flemming:
Yes, exactly.

Martin:
So covering it up and pushing away the fear of exams doesn’t help, then it’s too late because the fear is there and it’s justified. If the learning experts say, yes, you can just give in because the fear is justified. Visual madness, that’s a signal that you’re not damn well prepared because you’re learning with old learning patterns. And that’s just the setup of the book to say, the fear of exams becomes null and void when you feel like you’ve really understood it and when you know that you’ve learned the right thing and when you’ve practiced reproducing it. That’s why they just say, now I’m really warmed up, sorry, „halve the fear of exams“ . So I don’t promise anyone that I’ll magic away the fear of the exams. That’s often the case, yes, never again the fear of the exams and stuff like that, that’s nonsense. The fear of the exams is well, this nervousness, because it activates, because it makes you awake. But it shouldn’t be so great that there is this pressure and blocks you. But if you know that you have understood it and you have tried it out in your study group, Then you look forward to the exam when you finally have time again for the other beautiful things in life.

Flemming:
Okay, then I think it became very clear. It’s not about any methods to eliminate test anxiety, but simply test anxiety is automatically halved by increasing your learning success or the prospects of learning success. That’s how we got it together. Or was there something else you just wanted to add?

Martin:
Well, so instead of focusing on this fear of, „Oh God, I can’t be afraid,“ saying, „Okay, fear is normal in these processes, it’s a test and I’m allowed to demonstrate my performance that day.“ retrieve at this time. But I’m also doing everything I can to increase security.“ And if I focus on safety and structure and not on fear, then fear can sit in the sidecar, so to speak, and wake me up.

Flemming:
Okay, understandable. So, if I understand it correctly, you can actually use the fear to some extent to ultimately achieve success.

Martin:
Fear is an absolutely useful invention of evolution.

Flemming:
Sure, feelings always want to tell us something somehow. Exactly, very good. Yes, that’s super interesting. I think that, yes, it’s probably not like this, this, probably, maybe some people here were hoping to get a little bit of a remedy against this enormous pressure when you’re one, two, three days before it and you almost go crazy and panic because this exam is about to happen. Greetings to a former participant in my coaching, with whom I talked about it at length and tried to reassure her and also said, you can do anything, everything is fine. But she really went a little crazy. And unfortunately that’s something I see again and again. But yes.

Martin:
Attention, I would like to interject again because you said exam coach. Sometimes I also take last-minute people on a one-on-one basis and coach them again, if you will, two days before the exam or a week before the exam. Then you shouldn’t stress yourself out and say that the fear of exams has to go away. I’ve just tried to manage that somehow, because it’s not, it’s unrealistic, because they contact me because something went wrong in the learning process. They couldn’t motivate themselves, they procrastinated or it was just difficult, they couldn’t get along with the lecturer or the material, and so on and so forth. And it’s not about magicking the whole thing away at that moment with some Shaka methods or hypnosis stories, but rather becoming aware of what I can do and what are the elements that I have already done well. And I reduce test anxiety by 10 to 15 percent. You know, because of course people come out and it’s not all gone, because you can’t promise that in an hour, because these are biological processes that you’ve learned your whole life, this fear. And but you can just take away 10, 15 percent of this pressure, so to speak, so that it becomes a little easier to say, well, okay, this isn’t an ideal situation, but I’ll go in a little bit confident and see that I make my points and otherwise you will end up in this vicious circle.

Flemming:
Yes, to the point where you are no longer blocked, but can also access your knowledge precisely.

Martin:
Yes, you know that fear doesn’t come before fear. If I make it clear to people that the fear is just there and you can take it with you, then this fear of the fear is not, oh God, I’m afraid of exams, now I’m screwing it up again. But then you just go in and say, okay, I’ve learned a lot and I also have jitters. I’ve done 190 competitions or almost 200 competitions in my life and I’ve run to the toilet every time, even though I trained five times a week. And if I didn’t do that, even with, you once asked what I do, with lectures or seminars, if I didn’t have a tingling feeling beforehand and was a little nervous, then I wouldn’t accept the orders. That’s not for me, that’s not how I work. So this nervousness or this slight insecurity that motivates you to do your job well.

Flemming:
Super good, super important. I think that’s the central message that we can all take away from this, that this nervousness is simply important and that it’s part of it. And that’s the interesting thing about the human brain, that we are the only species on the planet that basically thinks about the fact that we think about it. Or as you said, the fear of fear. So that this meta level simply exists with us and that is what defines us. But as I said, in this context it is normal and I think that most people here can take this message with them and process it very well.

Martin:
As a last, perhaps last-minute trick, if I still had three days before the exam, I would say, go through this top grade process again in a helicopter flight. I would make it clear to myself again: What are the goals of the exam? What does the examiner want to hear from me? In which way? Let’s assume that the reproduction of knowledge is required and not just facts. Then I would draw a structure map and say, okay, I would get the exam questions or make them up, what would I ask as an examiner. Write that in the middle and then I’ll just try to answer it in brainstorming mode. Then I can see that I can fill an A4 page. Then I might think about how I would structure it in writing. Then comes this process 7, which I believe is in the process of structuring. And then comes process 8, training. Then I sit down three times and write three mock exams and then I see how much time I have and see, oh damn, I’m writing longer than there is time, I have to get to the point faster, I can correct myself. And then the fourth thing I would do is go to the exam location and, if you can, just sit there or sit in front of it and just get used to it, perhaps feeling nervous, thinking about what have I learned. Ideally, if it’s a university, the rooms are sometimes open, you would sit in the room and write a mock exam because we learn the context. You know how it is, you go into the kitchen shortly after the interview, you want to get the juice and then you do the dishes, take out the trash, come and do everything except what you wanted, come back to the desk and think, oh man.

Flemming:
Where’s the juice?

Martin:
Yes, or the bottle opener or whatever, when you suddenly have this context and that’s just, that just creates fear. If I only learn in one place, then this place is saved with the learning context and if that is missing, then there is one more degree of freedom, that is one more uncertainty factor and if I have already trained before, in the café, in the library When I’m learning or with someone else or in this place, I’m mentally more flexible, I’m just detached from this textbook, so to speak.

Flemming:
That’s another very, very good tip. So I think this is something that you can really implement quickly, that you can do really quickly, without a lot of effort.

Martin:
This is Dr. Krengel’s bonus hack for everyone who managed to make it to the end of the episode. What you should always do on Flemming’s podcast, otherwise you’ll miss the most important thing.

Flemming:
Very good, very good final word. Thank you, Martin. Exactly. Yes, I think we have distributed enough bonus hacks here now, or especially you here. I think, as I said, this is very, very relevant for people and people, feel free to write a few comments. If you are interested in a few more details here, then I can either pass this on to Martin or you can write him just directly under Martin, where can I reach you?

Martin:
The best way is on Instagram, i.e. dr.martinkrengel or at www.studienstrategie.de , where a friendly pop-up will appear in front of you and you can decide whether you want to learn time management or learning and sign up for the newsletter . The whole thing is called Brain News and you will definitely get a lot of other good hints and tips and also information about the books of course, top grade would be a first port of call. There is a course for the book, top grade , top grade course was 10 hours really with exercises, the whole thing can also be taken on the road, so if you are stuck somewhere, have motivational issues, the time is everywhere but not with you, then I am the right person Starting point or a good starting point to shamelessly throw this out into the world.

Flemming:
We can say „the right one“. What interests me about the book itself, or what else should perhaps be said now, is that, despite the title, it’s not just aimed at people who are about to take an exam or something like that , but it’s simply, I think, incredibly relevant for anyone who wants to learn more effectively.

Martin:
Yes, that’s the big pain that I have, I wrote it back then from my academic background, but the factor, the first sentence on the back, “ the ultimate instruction manual for your brain“ , that’s really it the basics of learning psychology combined with time management and motivation methods.

Flemming:
Perfect, exactly, that we said that clearly again here. Well, Martin, thank you very much for the book, surreptitious advertising. I would like to thank you very much for the book, I just said, I would like to thank you very much for your expertise, for the really enlightening conversation here and I hope and think that we will see each other again in the future, then here at German Chatter on a different topic , but what you do is probably always very relevant to us or to you here, dear listeners. So Martin, thank you very much for being there and all the best so far.

Martin:
Yes, focus on for everyone out there.

Flemming:
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